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Clean your fans!

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:37 pm
by amethyst

I had an old desktop lying around so decided to get it going with Puppy. It did work well from the start but I decided to give it a really good clean, especially the CPU fan. I noticed a grated metal surface between the fan and CPU and these openings were most certainly clogged with dust. Wow, what a difference cleaning that made. Machine now runs at least 20 degrees cooler and also quieter. Clean your fans!!!


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:37 am
by p310don

I have an i3 Intel NUC desktop computer.

It has laptop internals, including fan.

It was starting to get slower and slower. I figured it was after a few software upgrades until a friend suggested, "Have you changed the thermal paste?"

I pulled it apart, to find the cpu fan has an outlet about 5mm high by 25mm long and has a nice velvet carpet across it....

The computer went from running at a snail's pace to full speed. The sensors read out went from 95 to 100 degrees to mid 40s.

So yes, CLEAN YOUR FANS!!


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:42 am
by amethyst

Playing HD videos uses 50% less CPU power also. This is remarkable.


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 3:43 am
by Flash

The next computer I buy won't have a fan that sucks air in. It might have a fan inside a sealed case, to blow the air around inside, and some fins on the outside to cool the whole thing. If I can find one like that.


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:41 am
by Grey
amethyst wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:37 pm

Clean your fans!!!

Not just fans. It is necessary not to forget to keep the room clean, my stray sinful children :)

By the way, a unique sketch made by an unnamed Boer at the beginning of the 18th century has just been found in the Puppy's archives ;) It was found in a place where the Namib and Kalahari deserts join together.
Apparently, there are people cleaning out dust and sand from a large server room made of the same stone as the Egyptian pyramids. And all this right in the midst of a dust storm :)
The building reminds me of someone, but who... Maybe there is something about it in Robopup's database.

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Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:27 pm
by wizard

@Flash

The next computer I buy won't have a fan that sucks air in

There are already some systems with 4-6 watt cpu's that are fanless/ventless. I have 3 such, older Chromebooks, that are converted to run Puppy and they do in fact run both cool and quiet. Be awhile before "power" systems get there, but they will.

wizard


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 12:01 am
by Tippe

I have a computer built 24. June 2014.
Needed to clean it after the CPU fan was broken.
Never cleaned it in all those years.
It really was a huge dirty mess inside the computers case.

I removed everything from the case and cleaned all the parts very carefully.
Unfortunately it seemed that I broke one of the RAM devices
so I ordered two new ones - one for reserve, they got only two available.

The chassis fan and the fan of the power supply still running fine after cleaning them.
It took two days until everything was rebuilt to have a working computer.

Few days ago I bought a new keyboard and mouse also, to be able to use it without cables for both.
Via HDMI interface i can use this computer now on my new Caixun HD television at 1360X768.
Doing it from my new Sofa! :D


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 9:51 am
by p310don

Following @amethyst's and my own advice, I pulled apart another computer today that was starting to sound like a 747 on takeoff.... I thought I'd document this one.

It is another NUC PC, with laptop CPU and cooler. The one was less blocked than the earlier one, but still had a decent build up of fluff in the exhaust port of the fan.

It was running at about 80C and now runs in the 40s.

Exhaust port, probably 45% blocked
Exhaust port, probably 45% blocked
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Nice bit of shag
Nice bit of shag
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Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 10:37 am
by amethyst

Yes that's a lot of dirt. I probably could have done a better job with cleaning by removing some components but didn't want to with the old machine (let sleeping dogs lie). Cotton ear buds did the trick for me.


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:23 pm
by Flash

I usually wait for the power to fail, so I have to restart my computer anyway, then I open it up, take it outside and blow it out good with a shop vac used as a blower. After the fan has blown air through it for a year or so, the amount of dust that billows out is pretty impressive. Once I even took out the memory sticks and reseated them.


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 10:08 pm
by superhik

The things I find in people's desktops are horrendous.
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Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:39 pm
by wizard

You can always tell if:
1. They leave the computer running 24/7
2. If they have house pets
3. If they smoke

wizard


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 6:59 am
by superhik
wizard wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:39 pm

You can always tell if:
1. They leave the computer running 24/7
2. If they have house pets
3. If they smoke

wizard

Not necessary in that order.
What can you tell when the computer case is all beaten-up? Like Rocky Balboa after a boxing match.


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 7:11 am
by pp4mnklinux

Hello:

It is important organice your cpu to mantein it cooler, but what is your opinión about no fans (no noise) and open you CPU?

My experience is if fans are no correctly located, there is no benefict over open cpu, but there is less noise.

What is your idea?

Have a nice day.


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:47 am
by bigpup

General air flow, inside a desktop computer case, is the main thing to consider.

The CPU fan, if properly mounted and kept clean, is going to do it's job.

But keeping anything from blocking air flow in and out of the case, is important.

Usually, there is an exhaust fan, pulling hot air out of the case and fresh air inlet slots, to let fresh air into the case.
The power supply fan could be providing this.

If you have an add on graphics card, that has fans to cool it.

Making sure the hot air those fans produce, has a good way to exit the case.

The amount of hot air the large graphics cards could produce, can cause the need to have an added exhaust fan, mounted on the side panel of the case, in area of graphics card location.


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 9:57 am
by tammi806

My desktop gets dusted once a year with short blasts of air.
I remove the side cover and from the inside out blow out the dust.
Since the desktop is disconnected I also blow the dust out of the keyboard and mouse.
It's amazing how much dust can accumulate in everything throughout the year.

:)


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:12 am
by p310don

My home computer was starting to chug a bit so opened it up and lo and behold, shag carpet on the cooler.

This is AMD FX-8320 which runs pretty hot at the best of times. With the carpet on the cooler, it was really cooking. The sensors readout has gone from 45 degrees to 12-13 degrees. I don't think this number is actually accurate, seeing as though the room temp here is 30 degrees!


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 2:17 pm
by wizard

Can use to make a sweater :lol:

Thanks
wizard


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:25 pm
by p310don

Can use to make a sweater :lol:

Ironically if I hadn't cleaned it, I wouldn't need a sweater, it warmed the room nicely... :)


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 4:19 pm
by Doggy

I make it a habit to regularly clean my PC, including the fans, because I've seen firsthand the impact it can have on temperature and noise levels.

At our office in Lafayette, we take it a step further. We have a cleaning service, Going Green Cleaning, that comes in weekly to make sure all our workstations are kept tidy while we clean the PCs. We like this company because they also clean our monitors and keyboards. I don't know if other companies do that.

And every couple of months, we schedule a deep clean session where we meticulously clean the fans, circuit boards, and all internal components. It's amazing how much dust and debris can accumulate over time.


Re: Clean your fans!

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:53 pm
by sonny

To kill two birds with one stone...

Don't forget to clean the old/dry thermal paste on your
CPU and heatsink, then apply the fresh one

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