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Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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Since we now have a dedicated subforum at our disposal, please do not post support questions in this thread, create a separate one instead. Comments, feedback, etc related to this specific release is still okay. Thank you.
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Fatdog64-812 Final was released on 9 November 2021.

The Fatdog team is pleased to release Fatdog 812 Final.

This release improved on the 812 RC and includes several bug fixes as identified by the feedback we receive from early adopters in this thread, and also comes with minor new features. All Fatdog 811 users are recommended to upgrade to this release where possible as it contains important fixes.

Special note for 812 RC users: We don't normally recommend that you carry over your savefile/savedir from earlier Fatdogs, but if you are 812RC, you can safely re-use your existing savefile/savedir, since the changes between the two are minimal.

Changes from 812 RC:

Updates:

  • dialog 1.3.2021.11

  • mawk 1.3.4.2020

  • openssh 8.8p

  • syslinux 6.04pre2deb3

  • yad_gtk2 0.42.42

  • gnupg1 1.4.23

  • bluez-tools 2021.11

New Features:

  • Simple Bluetooth Manager

  • ALSA Loop sound server

Discussion for 812 Final starts on page 2 of this thread.
The ISO builder is dated 2021-Nov and 812-pkglist.tar.xz.

For more detailed changes between 812 and 811, please read the following release for 812RC as they're equally applicable to 812 Final too.

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Fatdog64-812 RC was released on 16 October 2021.

The Fatdog team is pleased to release Fatdog 812 RC.

This release candidate is a maintenance release with some new features. All Fatdog 811 users are recommended to upgrade to this release where possible as it contains important fixes.

If you still run earlier Fatdog series (700 or 600), we also recommend upgrading to this version where possible. In this case, you may want to read the notes/warnings noted in Fatdog64 802/801/800 thread.

As usual Fatdog64 does not upgrade from any older version. Using a new savefile/savedir is recommended.

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Changes from 811: 811 thread

Updates:

  • Linux-5.4.152, low-latency, 1000Hz

  • Microcode as of 2021.10.07

  • Timezone data updated to 2021.a (as of April 2021)

  • LICK Windows Installer 1.3.4

  • gawk 5.1.0

  • openssl 1.1.1l

  • GNU TLS 3.6.16

  • cmake 3.18.4 (devx)

  • unrar 6.0.5

  • civetweb 1.14

  • wpa_supplicant 2.9

  • make-ca 1.7 and lfs-cacert-2021.10 (addresses LetsEncrypt DST X3 Root expiration)

  • pixman 0.40.0

  • libdrm 2.4.107

  • llvm 8.0.1 (for Mesa)

  • vdpau 1.4 (for Mesa)

  • mesa 20.3.5

  • libva 2.12.0

  • xorg-server 1.20.13

  • xf86-input-wacom 0.40.0

  • xf86-video-nouveau 1.7

  • xf86-video-vesa 2.5.0

  • cairo 1.17.4

  • gtk2 2.24.33 (final version of gtk2)

  • libwacom 1.12

  • libinput 1.19.0

  • xf86-input-libinput 1.1.0

  • rxvt-unicode 9.26

  • feh 3.7.2

  • rox-filer-jun7 2021.09

  • xdialog 2020.10

  • tigervnc 1.11.0

  • geany 1.36

  • mtpaint 3.50.09

  • yad_gtk2 0.42.39

  • lftp 4.9.2

  • git 2.3.1 (devx)

  • python-pycairo 1.18.2 (devx)

  • gtkdialog-2021.514

  • pidgin 2.14.5

  • vlc 3.0.16

  • libneon 0.31.2

  • ntfs-3g 2017.3.23AR (April 2021 release)

  • bluez-alsa 3.0

  • hardinfo 2021.04.11

  • vnstat 2.6

  • mbpfan 2.2.1

  • qemu-arm-x86_64 6.0.0 (devx)

  • refind 0.13.2

  • transmission 3.00

  • avidemux 2.7.8

  • libreoffice 6.3.6.2 (because libreoffice 7.1 sucks)

  • imgjoin 1.1

  • uextract 4.6

New Features:

  • apfs-fuse 2021.06 (for accessing macOS APFS partitions)

  • libwebp-pixbuf-loader 0.0.3 - for viewing static and animated WEBP images

  • imlib-webp-1.1.2 - webp support for imlib

  • iftop 1.04pre4 - like "top" but for network interface traffic (similar to iptraf)

  • florence 0.5.4 on-screen keyboard, replacing xvkbd (xvkbd still available in repo)

  • desktop-wallpaper 1.0 - a new, desktop wallpaper setter and slideshow player, supporting WEBP images, replacing the venerable Nathan's wallpaper setter (which is still available in the repo).

  • getjava.sh script now can be updated to handle java website's ever changing layout format

  • Fatdog control panel vertical layout and new tab structure

  • rox thumbnails support WEBP image format. In order to see thumbnails in rox, a user needs to enable " Thumbnails > show image thumbnails" in rox options; thumbnails are then drawn in new windows.

  • ROX drive icons and filemnt support LUKS partition images transparently

  • Network Tool supports hidden SSIDs.

and numerous bug fixes and fine tunings, in particular some of the nastier running-in-RAM bugs have been squashed.

Downloads:

Get it from here: ibiblio.org, or from uoc.gr, or nluug.nl.

The ISO builder is available on ibiblio.org or one of the mirrors above, get the builder dated 2021-Oct and 812rc-pkglist.tar.xz.

DEXV, NLS, 32-bit compatibility, and kernel source SFS files can be downloaded using the "SFS Manager" applet located in Fatdog64 Control Panel's "System" tab.

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If you need to boot on a machine with Secure Boot enabled, please make sure you read this first this: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/fa ... -boot.html

If you have any questions please check this pages first: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/faqs/faq.html. This page is also available offline, and you can view it by clicking this link file:///usr/share/doc/faqs/faq.html if you are currently running Fatdog. Or you can click the "question mark" icon on the desktop.

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Many thanks to all the contributors who supported us behind the scene with their feedback, bug reports, ideas, and fixes.

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Fatdog64-812 RC [16 Oct 2021]

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Mini-FAQ regarding this release.

1. Why did we choose to go with LibreOffice 6.3 when we could have built LO 7.1?

Libre Office 6.3.6.2 is the last version that supports GTK2 and although LO supports also GTK3, X11 and QT5 UI frontends, the second is not really pleasing aesthetically and the third is very buggy.
We decided to not include GTK3 out of the box yet, but even if we did, the GTK3 UI is also noticeably slower than GTK2 one, so 6.3.6.2 seems to be a reasonable compromise, at least for the time being.
If you really want/need the latest libreoffice, check the "Third Party Installer" from Control Panel, and choose "Update Libreoffice". Remember to install gtk3 from gslapt or it won't run.

2. Why did we choose Mesa to 20.3.5 instead of 21.2.1?

Versions newer than 21.0.3 contain a significant performance regression that hits some older Radeon HD cards (GFX6-7). The regression was reported and fixed.
We went with 20.3.5 instead of 21.0.3, because of the smaller size and no noticeable difference in performance between them.

3. Why do we stay with 5.4.152 instead of 5.10 or newer kernels?

We tried 5.10.63, but it turned out that:
- on some machines it runs noticeably hotter and the CPU usage is higher,
- on another machine grub4dos is unable to find fd64.sfs and the keyboard doesn't work at Bulldog prompt.

4. My Alt-F3 key no longer works! It was supposed to launch Findnrun! Do you get rid of this hugely popular and useful software?

Of course not. It's still there, except that it is now accessible by pressing Win+S. Re-mapping it to Win+S serves dual purpose:
- Freeing Alt+F3 for application-defined shortcut key, and
- Findnrun is similar in functionality to what Win+S does in Windows, so it helps those who come from the world of windows.

5. How can I display the same background image for the Xorg splash screen and my Desktop wallpaper?

The Xorg splash screen is displayed briefly when Xorg starts and before ROX-Filer can draw your Desktop.

To change the default Xorg background create the following symbolic link in your Fatdog state directory targeting the desired image file, e.g.: /root/.fatdog/xinitrc-splash => /root/Pictures/my-background.jpg

Alternatively, to set the Xorg splash background from your last Desktop wallpaper enable executable permission for file /etc/profile.d/sync_xorg_splash_from_rox_backdrop.sh (set it and forget it).

6. My old ACER laptop can't boot with syslinux and small initrd. Why?

This has been reported on an ACER AO 722 under a very specific configuration only. Try changing the resolution in the Syslinux config file ("menu resolution 800 600") to "640 480" or "1024 768". Let us know if it helps.

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Re: Fatdog64-812 RC [16 Oct 2021]

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Fatdog version : 812rc
Kernel version : 5.4.152
Microcode : 20211007
Build date : 2021-10-17

when I click on sfs manager in control panel, it says failed to download, check my internet conection.
I'm connected via eth0.
is there an address to download the DEVX file needed to install devx and kernel sources?

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Re: Fatdog64-812 RC [16 Oct 2021]

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spiritwild wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:30 pm

when I click on sfs manager in control panel, it says failed to download, check my internet conection.
I'm connected via eth0.

Does it still happen?
If so, what's the output of:

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wget -O - http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/fatdog/sfs/810/sfslist
spiritwild wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:30 pm

is there an address to download the DEVX file needed to install devx and kernel sources?

This is the root directory: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/.
Both devx and kernel sources are in sfs/810/ dir.

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Re: Fatdog64-812 RC [16 Oct 2021]

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# wget -O - http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... 10/sfslist
--2021-10-24 22:39:45-- http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... 10/sfslist
Resolving distro.ibiblio.org (distro.ibiblio.org)... 152.19.134.43
Connecting to distro.ibiblio.org (distro.ibiblio.org)|152.19.134.43|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 301 Moved Permanently
Location: /fatdog/sfs/810/sfslist [following]
--2021-10-24 22:39:46-- http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/sfs/810/sfslist
Reusing existing connection to distro.ibiblio.org:80.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 6228 (6.1K) [application/octet-stream]
Saving to: ‘STDOUT’

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Re: Fatdog64-812 RC [16 Oct 2021]

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@spiritwild: Ok, so wget works. And sfsmanager still doesn't or does now?
If it doesn't, is it also the case without a savefile/folder?
You can also run it from CLI using sfsmanager command and see if there are any errors or other suspicious messages.

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Re: Fatdog64-812 RC [16 Oct 2021]

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This is an observation, not a complaint: I state this so that it is not misunderstood.

FATDOG (FD) is a premier distro and not just that its 1st in Puppyland, but is very advanced in what it has produced in the forum.

FD has address Secure-Boot several years ago, yet this thread highlights a problem. Its NOT a FD problem with its operations. It the 'Opening Post" information for FATDOG that can avert the issue that the new member (and others people unfamiliar) run into; namely Secure Boot Registration.

I offer an idea: Could future Opening Posts for each new FD have a "brief" explaining registration so that new people pulling it for the 1st time, will see the simple Secure Boot registration suggestion or reference?

If this is a reasonable idea, I sure we'll see it.

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Re: Fatdog64-812 RC [16 Oct 2021]

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Clarity wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 12:12 am

I offer an idea: Could future Opening Posts for each new FD have a "brief" explaining registration so that new people pulling it for the 1st time, will see the simple Secure Boot registration suggestion or reference?

Yeah, why not. I added the link to http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/fa ... -boot.html in the first post.
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Re: Fatdog64-812 RC [16 Oct 2021]

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spiritwild wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:30 pm

when I click on sfs manager in control panel, it says failed to download, check my internet conection.

This is because /etc/fatdog-version is 812rc so the program looks for the ibiblio directory http://..../fatdog/sfs/812rc that does not exit.
Change /etc/fatdog-version to 810 for the sfsmanager to work.

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Re: Fatdog64-812 RC [16 Oct 2021]

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retiredt00 wrote: Mon Nov 01, 2021 2:55 pm
spiritwild wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:30 pm

when I click on sfs manager in control panel, it says failed to download, check my internet conection.

This is because /etc/fatdog-version is 812rc so the program looks for the ibiblio directory http://..../fatdog/sfs/812rc that does not exit.
Change /etc/fatdog-version to 810 for the sfsmanager to work.

Thank you, reproduced now. I've been using a different ISO (WIP), not the RC one.

Obviously it will fix itself with the release of 812 Final, but, just in case, I also fixed it in sfsmanager (and a few other scripts), so versions like '820alpha3' won't break it again in the future.

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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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Fatdog64 812 Final has been released. See details on the first post.

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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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fatdog wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:36 pm

Fatdog64-812 Final was released on 9 November 2021.

The future is rapidly breaking through the window. Wow, and it's only November 8th on my calendar, almost seven o'clock in the evening :)

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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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Grey wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:59 pm

The future is rapidly breaking through the window. Wow, and it's only November 8th on my calendar, almost seven o'clock in the evening :)

LOL :lol: We use tachyon wave over subspace to bring you the latest news from the Inner Worlds; and it is well known than tachyon is very sensitive to calibration errors. A little misalignment could end up with problems like this. I guess we should count ourselves lucky that it's only a day early instead of a month early - that would be trouble, people would be asking us for releases that we haven't even contemplated yet :lol:

A more down-to-Earth reason is that, living near the international dateline does have its perks. :mrgreen:

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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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Thank you to the Fatdog Team for Fatdog64-812. It is very nice. Thanks again.

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first install of fatdog64

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I noticed during first install of fatdog64...

When Google-Chrome browser is run for first time there is a warning message that
gtk3 is not installed . This happens when machine is not connected to internet.
Everything goes well if connected to internet.

I suggest that warning message should be different.
When selecting Google-Chrome browser for first time...
'Computer must be connected to internet for download of software'
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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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'Computer must be connected to internet for download of software'

@don570 isn't that a given??

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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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@Peter
Of course!! But it's a nice reminder.

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mount-cifs-windows-share-on-linux

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Another possible request .....

I noticed that neither mount-FULL or mount.cfs is installed.
In previous versions of puppy I was using these commands to connect to Samba servers
https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-mount- ... -on-linux/

It appears that fatdog now wants the GUI in the control panel to be used.
Its not important , but I thought I should mention it.
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ubuntu_2110_supports_braswell_audio_natively

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On reedit forum according to mrchromebox (who is expert at booting UEFI computers)
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalliumOS/comm ... _natively/

Ubuntu 21.10 supports Braswell audio natively!
Hooray Edgar/Reks owners. Not sure if it's the kernel or not, I've had 5.13 installed on 20.04 before, but I had already done the hacky method of braswell sound.

The response by mrchromebox....

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its the kernel with SOF and SOF firmware. Works OOTB on Manjaro 21.x.x as well

I researched SOF and I found that it's an open source project for helping the development of audio drivers
https://thesofproject.github.io/latest/ ... index.html
It might be of use in the future for Fatdog64. It requires kernel 5.2 minimum
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Re: mount-cifs-windows-share-on-linux

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don570 wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:25 pm

I noticed that neither mount-FULL or mount.cfs is installed.

The mount command in Fatdog is the full (a real binary) one, not a script.
As for mount.cfs, it's mount.cifs.

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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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don570 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 27, 2021 3:25 pm
I noticed that neither mount-FULL or mount.cfs is installed.

The mount command in Fatdog is the full (a real binary) one, not a script.
As for mount.cfs, it's mount.cifs.

OOPS! I should have typed in 'mount' command in terminal

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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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Thanks Fatdog team

HDD based multi-session saving setup, with my container script dropped into /root and that all ran great with minimal changes required :D Since 810 I've been refining that and it was nice to have pretty much everything all preconfigured/set to how I like.

I load fd64.sfs into ram at bootup, so the container runs using the aufs copy of that, so no HDD's need to be mounted in order to load/run the container

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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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Glad that you're enjoying it, rufwoof, and nice to see you dropping by after a long while. :welcome:

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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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jamesbond wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 6:19 am

Glad that you're enjoying it, rufwoof, and nice to see you dropping by after a long while. :welcome:

Hi James. More a case of I don't load/run any Pup's nowadays, GUI wise Fatdog is my primary system that runs/works great for me :thumbup2: So still visit relatively regularly, mostly just lurking.

Pretty much run all online GUI activities in that container, root in name only (more like a heavily restricted userid), close one container to open another and its back to as though a clean/fresh install that just takes a second to 'boot' (reload). Secure and great enough to install a state of Zen (ultimate inner peace :))

Thanks again to you and all the Fatdog team for facilitating such inner calm without which (alternatives) induce so much more stresses.

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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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Hello @fatdog Team

I saw your post of advancements with QT+, GTK+ (3/4) and Wayland. Very interesting as the technology needle continues advancing and forum PUPs continue as well to ensure operations on the hardware-chipsets-firmware we need and use today. THANK YOU ALL for what you do for us. And BEST WISHES this Holiday season to ALL, here.

I am curious for 2 reasons; neither of which I am currently seasoned person in, yet in 2022 I am hopeful to become much more seasoned. My curiousity surrounds something I saw in 2020 about 'Blender'. I know FD has provided AVIDEMUX for good reason in the past. It does a good job in minor video needs.

Blender has come along rocketing out of the 2D to 3D to Anime to Video-audio editing in a single package while being a good performer in the reports seen here and here. This shows that a single package can serve a wide-variety of motion video functions in a single package rather than having to jump around into multiple packages in attempts to meet a multimedia objective for, say, a presentation.

In 64bit systems, the big thing for me is not a package size, rather its the system's performance (RAM,CPU, IO-subsystem) as well as 'user' productivity since that allows less time on the system to meet our needs. And since I have a cheap new TV coming to replace the final VGA monitor that the PC's graphic card can better support with built-in audio-video signaling, I have a question that I am sure can be answered for use in the current and the upcoming FATDOG: Will the Wayland changes benefit this configuration with Blender as a offering?

Yes, that question does seem a little vague, BUT, I look forward to an encounter that would provide the best outcome in system's use/experience.

My PC configuration is as minimal as possible for multimedia use; namely 3 wires, max, to the PC

  • power

  • HDMI

  • Ethernet (optional)

Compare this to our past when dial-up was a thing...and all the wires...and the physical debugging at times.

The progress made in the 3 decades of Linux is unconscionable!

Any advice would me muchly appreciated.

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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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Clarity wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 8:09 am

THANK YOU ALL for what you do for us. And BEST WISHES this Holiday season to ALL, here.

Same to you too.

I am curious for 2 reasons; neither of which I am currently seasoned person in, yet in 2022 I am hopeful to become much more seasoned. My curiousity surrounds something I saw in 2020 about 'Blender'.

You can install Blender from Fatdog repo. We have made it available since 710 days. It's the re-packaged official binary from Blender website. It's updated from time to time, but if you need the latest and greatest (before we have the chance to update it) you can always download from Blender's own website. They're the one and the same.

And since I have a cheap new TV coming to replace the final VGA monitor that the PC's graphic card can better support with built-in audio-video signaling, I have a question that I am sure can be answered for use in the current and the upcoming FATDOG: Will the Wayland changes benefit this configuration with Blender as a offering?

1. Changing from VGA to HDMI is absolutely orthogonal to changing from Xorg to Wayland. In other words, ZERO benefit.

2. I'm sorry to pour down cold water on your enthusiasm; but we are not going the the wayland way; at least, not for the foreseeable future. We value real productivity over industry trends.

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Blender 2.64 is the limit

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You can install Blender from Fatdog repo.

If you have an extremely old PC like a Pentium II you are limited to an early version of opengl
and that means that more recent versions of blender won't work. Blender 2.64 is the limit in that situation.
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Re: Fatdog64-812 Final [9 Nov 2021]

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Thanks for the info, @don570 :thumbup:

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