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PLUG file to Build WDL-Void-jwm

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Built successfully a WDL-Void -jwm using the latest PLUG file version:

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# WeeDogLinux Build Plugin: f_00_void_amd64_WeeDog64_jwm_rox_1.8.plug
# Contributed by: rockedge
# License: MIT; Creation Date: 01JAN2021; Revision Date: 28OCT2021
# WeeDog64-Void JWM ROX and the Void Linux kernel
# this version sets up automatic login. Main creditials are user=root, passwd=root
# regular user=weedog, password=weedog
# startx will launch the desktop and time is set to UTC
# all the parameters can changed as desired.
#
xbps-install -y base-minimal file mc
xbps-install -y ncurses-base linux linux-firmware-network wifi-firmware shadow

# set up passwd system
pwconv
grpconv
# echo -e "root\nroot" | passwd >/dev/null 2>&1 # Quietly set default root passwd to "root"
printf "root\nroot\n" | passwd >/dev/null 2>&1


# set root to use /bin/bash
usermod --shell /bin/bash root

# you can add as many valid commandlines as you want in here
xbps-install -y xorg jwm rox bash geany adwaita-icon-theme
xbps-install -y mtpaint htop viewnior xarchiver guvcview ffmpeg alsa-utils
xbps-install -y squashfs-tools vlc chrony leafpad scrot
xbps-install -y yad cpanminus menu-cache librsvg-utils imlib2 vlc
xbps-install -y socklog-void xdgmenumaker ntfs-3g gxmessage

# Install Terminal
xbps-install -y xterm lxterminal

# Install Browser
xbps-install -y firefox


# Set locale to en_US.UTF-8 
sed -i 's/#en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8/en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8/' /etc/default/libc-locales
xbps-reconfigure -f glibc-locales

# Make changes in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc to start jwm and rox -p default with startx if startx is included in /etc/rc.local
# and auto starts the X server, jwm and rox before the login prompt.
# Add /root/.xinitrc for the actual startx commands that will be used after logging in as "root"
cp /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc /root/.xinitrc
sed -i '51,$d' /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
echo "jwm &" >>/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
echo "rox -p default &" >>/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
echo "exec xterm -geometry 60x10+600+480 -name login" >>/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
sed -i '51,$d' /root/.xinitrc
echo "rox -p default &" >>/root/.xinitrc
echo "exec jwm" >>/root/.xinitrc

# Change jwm clock to also show date
sed -i 's/<Clock format="%H:%M">/<Clock format="%a %d %b %H:%M">/' /etc/system.jwmrc

# Show MENU in jwm tray
sed -i 's/TrayButton icon="jwm-blue"/TrayButton label="MENU" icon="jwm-blue"/' /etc/system.jwmrc

# Set up VLC to run as root
sed -i 's/geteuid/getppid/' /usr/bin/vlc

# Construct rox pinboard default 
# ***NOTE*** change /mnt/sda1 to match the partition WeeDog is installed on
#mkdir /root/.config
#mkdir /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net
mkdir -p /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer
cd /root/.config/rox.sourceforge.net/ROX-Filer
cat <<'EOF' >> pb_default
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<pinboard>
<backdrop style="Stretched">/usr/share/backgrounds/DarkGray.svg</backdrop>
<icon x="256" y="32" label="mm_vw">/usr/local/bin/mm_viewme</icon>
<icon x="32" y="128" label="xterm">/usr/local/bin/defaultterminal</icon>
<icon x="32" y="224" label="firefox">/usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop</icon>
<icon x="128" y="32" label="applications">/usr/share/applications</icon>
<icon x="32" y="32" label="Home">/root</icon>
<icon x="32" y="320" label="geany">/usr/share/applications/geany.desktop</icon>
<icon x="32" y="416" label="mtpaint">/usr/share/applications/mtpaint.desktop</icon>
</pinboard>
EOF

# Network script construction for eth0 and lo
cd /usr/local/bin/
touch net_connect
echo '#!/bin/sh' >>net_connect
echo '#ip link set eth0 up' >>net_connect
echo '#ip link set lo up' >>net_connect
echo '#udhcpc -i eth0' >>net_connect
echo 'wiakwifi' >>net_connect

# Set Time script construction. will set to UTC
# modify /etc/rc.conf to adjust timezone and hardware clock
touch set_time
echo '#!/bin/sh' >>set_time
echo 'chronyd -q "pool pool.ntp.org iburst"' >>set_time

# start audio script construction
touch start_sound
echo '#!/bin/sh' >>start_sound
echo 'modprobe snd_hda_intel' >>start_sound
echo 'alsactl init' >>start_sound

# start_pmcputemp script construction
touch start_pmcputemp
echo '#!/bin/sh' >>start_pmcputemp
echo 'exec pmcputemp' >>start_pmcputemp

# start_retrovol script construction
touch start_retrovol
echo '#!/bin/sh' >>start_retrovol
echo 'exec retrovol' >>start_retrovol

# start_logging script construction
touch start_logging
echo '# enable socklog logging' >>start_logging
echo 'ln -s /etc/sv/socklog-unix /var/service/' >>start_logging
echo 'ln -s /etc/sv/nanoklogd /var/service/' >>start_logging

# make both net_connect and start_sound executable
chmod +x /usr/local/bin/start_sound
chmod +x /usr/local/bin/net_connect
chmod +x /usr/local/bin/set_time
chmod +x /usr/local/bin/start_pmcputemp
chmod +x /usr/local/bin/start_retrovol
chmod +x /usr/local/bin/start_logging

# Set system to run connection and audio start scripts on bootup
cd /etc
echo "#/usr/local/bin/net_connect" >>rc.local
echo "#/usr/local/bin/set_time" >>rc.local
echo "/usr/local/bin/start_sound" >>rc.local
echo "/usr/local/bin/start_logging" >>rc.local

#ln -s /etc/sv/alsa /var/service/alsa

# enable socklog logging
ln -s /etc/sv/socklog-unix /var/service/
ln -s /etc/sv/nanoklogd /var/service/

# Set Bash as shell
xbps-alternatives --set bash

# create /root/.jwmrc with correct menu links for jwm logged in as root
cd /root/
cat <<'EOF' >> /root/.jwmrc 
<?xml version="1.0"?>
<JWM>
<!-- Disable virtual desktop scroll. -->
	<RootMenu onroot="4"/>
	<RootMenu onroot="5"/>
	
<!-- The root menu. -->
  <RootMenu onroot="12" height="24">
        
        <Include>/root/.jwmrc-menus</Include>
        
        <Separator/>
        <Program icon="/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/256x256/legacy/system-lock-screen.png" label="Exit X">pkill X</Program>
        <Separator/>       
        <Restart label="Restart JWM" icon="/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/scalable/emblems/emblem-synchronizing-symbolic.svg"/>
        <Exit label="Exit JWM" confirm="true" icon="/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/scalable/actions/system-log-out-symbolic.svg"/>
        <Program icon="/usr/share/icons/Adwaita/scalable/actions/system-shutdown-symbolic.svg" label="Shutdown">xlunch-logout</Program>
    </RootMenu>
 <!-- Options for program groups. -->
    <Group>
        <Option>tiled</Option>
        <Option>aerosnap</Option>
    </Group>
    <Group>
        <Class>Pidgin</Class>
        <Option>sticky</Option>
    </Group>
    <Group>
        <Name>xterm</Name>
        <Option>vmax</Option>
    </Group>
    <Group>
        <Name>xclock</Name>
        <Option>drag</Option>
        <Option>notitle</Option>
    </Group>
                                                           
  <!-- Tray at the bottom. -->
    <Tray x="0" y="-1" autohide="off" height="24">
        <TrayButton label="MENU" icon="jwm-blue">root:1</TrayButton>
        <Spacer width="2"/>
        <TrayButton popup="xlunch" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/xlunch-logo.png">exec:xluncher3</TrayButton>
        <Spacer width="2"/>
        <TrayButton label="_">showdesktop</TrayButton>
        <Spacer width="2"/>
        <TrayButton popup="lxterminal" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/filled-xterm_32x32.xpm">exec:lxterminal</TrayButton>
        <Spacer width="2"/>
                                                           
    <Pager labeled="true"/>
        <TaskList maxwidth="256"/>
                                                           
    <Dock/>
                                                                 
        <Swallow name="xload" width="32">xload -nolabel -bg "#444444" -fg "#00FF00" -hl "#4C7CC1"</Swallow>
        <Clock format="%a %d %b %H:%M"><Button mask="123">exec:xclock</Button></Clock>
                                                           
    </Tray>
                                                           
<!-- Visual Styles -->
    <WindowStyle>
        <Font>Sans-9:bold</Font>
        <Width>4</Width>
        <Height>21</Height>
        <Corner>3</Corner>
        <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
        <Background>#555555</Background>
        <Outline>#000000</Outline>
        <Opacity>0.5</Opacity>
        <Active>
            <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
            <Background>#0077CC</Background>
            <Outline>#000000</Outline>
            <Opacity>1.0</Opacity>
        </Active>
    </WindowStyle>
    <TrayStyle group="true" list="desktop">
        <Font>Sans-9</Font>
        <Background>#333333</Background>
        <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
        <Outline>#000000</Outline>
        <Opacity>0.75</Opacity>
    </TrayStyle>
    <TaskListStyle>
      <Font>Sans-9</Font>
      <Active>
        <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
        <Background>#555555</Background>
      </Active>
      <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
      <Background>#333333</Background>
    </TaskListStyle>
    <PagerStyle>
        <Outline>#000000</Outline>
        <Foreground>#555555</Foreground>
        <Background>#333333</Background>
        <Text>#FFFFFF</Text>
        <Active>
            <Foreground>#0077CC</Foreground>
            <Background>#004488</Background>
        </Active>
    </PagerStyle>
    <MenuStyle>
        <Font>Sans-9</Font>
        <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
        <Background>#333333</Background>
        <Outline>#000000</Outline>
        <Active>
            <Foreground>#FFFFFF</Foreground>
            <Background>#0077CC</Background>
       </Active>
        <Opacity>0.85</Opacity>
    </MenuStyle>
    <PopupStyle>
        <Font>Sans-9</Font>
        <Foreground>#000000</Foreground>
        <Background>#999999</Background>
   </PopupStyle>
                                                           
<!-- Path where icons can be found.
         IconPath can be listed multiple times to allow searching
         for icons in multiple paths.
     -->
    <IconPath>
        /usr/share/icons/wm-icons/32x32-aquafusion
    </IconPath>
    <IconPath>
        /usr/local/share/jwm
    </IconPath>
                                                           
    <!-- Virtual Desktops -->
    <!-- Desktop tags can be contained within Desktops for desktop names. -->
    <Desktops width="4" height="1"> 
        <!-- Default background. Note that a Background tag can be
              contained within a Desktop tag to give a specific background
              for that desktop.
         -->
        <Background type="solid">#111111</Background>
    </Desktops>
                                                           
<!-- Double click speed (in milliseconds) -->
    <DoubleClickSpeed>400</DoubleClickSpeed>
                                                           
<!-- Double click delta (in pixels) -->
    <DoubleClickDelta>2</DoubleClickDelta>
                                                           
<!-- The focus model (sloppy or click) -->
    <FocusModel>click</FocusModel>
                                                           
<!-- The snap mode (none, screen, or border) -->
    <SnapMode distance="10">border</SnapMode>
                                                           
<!-- The move mode (outline or opaque) -->
    <MoveMode>opaque</MoveMode>
                                                           
<!-- The resize mode (outline or opaque) -->
    <ResizeMode>opaque</ResizeMode>
                                                           
<!-- Key bindings -->
    <Key key="Up">up</Key>
    <Key key="Down">down</Key>
    <Key key="Right">right</Key>
    <Key key="Left">left</Key>
    <Key key="h">left</Key>
    <Key key="j">down</Key>
    <Key key="k">up</Key>
    <Key key="l">right</Key>
    <Key key="Return">select</Key>
    <Key key="Escape">escape</Key>
                                                           
    <Key mask="A" key="Tab">nextstacked</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="F4">close</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="#">desktop#</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="F1">root:1</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="F2">window</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="F10">maximize</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="Right">rdesktop</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="Left">ldesktop</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="Up">udesktop</Key>
    <Key mask="A" key="Down">ddesktop</Key>

    <StartupCommand>start_retrovol &</StartupCommand>
    <StartupCommand>start_pmcputemp &</StartupCommand>
                                                           
</JWM>
EOF

# install pmcputemp 0.63
mkdir /root/Build
cd /root/Build
wget http://rockedge.org/kernels/data/firstrib/pmcputemp-0.63a.tar.gz
tar xvfz pmcputemp-0.63a.tar.gz
cd pmcputemp-0.63a
cp -r $PWD/root/.config/pmcputemp /root/.config/pmcputemp
cp -r $PWD/root/.config/autostart/pmcputemp.desktop /usr/share/applications/pmcputemp.desktop
cp -r $PWD/usr/bin/pmcputemp /usr/bin/pmcputemp
cp -r $PWD/usr/bin/pmcputemp.sh /usr/bin/pmcputemp.sh
 
# install retrovol 0.10
cd /root/Build
wget http://rockedge.org/kernels/data/firstrib/retrovol-0.10-x86_64.tar.gz
tar xvfz retrovol-0.10-x86_64.tar.gz
cd retrovol-0.10-x86_64
cp -r $PWD/usr/bin/retrovol /usr/bin/retrovol
cp -r $PWD/usr/share/applications/Retrovol.desktop /usr/share/applications/Retrovol.desktop
cp -r $PWD/usr/share/retrovol /usr/share/retrovol

# install mm_viewme which is in the pb_default 
cd /root/Build
wget http://rockedge.org/kernels/data/firstrib/mm_viewme.tar.gz
tar xvfz mm_viewme.tar.gz
cp -r $PWD/mm_viewme /usr/local/bin/mm_viewme

# install xlunch
cd /root/Build
wget http://rockedge.org/kernels/data/firstrib/xlunch_4.1.1-1_amd64.tar.gz
tar xvfz xlunch_4.1.1-1_amd64.tar.gz
cd xlunch_4.1.1-1_amd64
cp -r $PWD/etc/xdg/menus /etc/xdg/menus
cp -r $PWD/etc/xlunch /etc/xlunch
cp -r $PWD/usr/local/bin/xlunch /usr/local/bin/xlunch
cp -r $PWD/usr/local/bin/xlunch-menu /usr/local/bin/xlunch-menu
cp -r $PWD/usr/local/bin/xlunch-menu-update  /usr/local/bin/xlunch-menu-update
cp -r $PWD/usr/local/bin/xlunch-menu-gen /usr/local/bin/xlunch-menu-gen
cp -r $PWD/usr/local/bin/xlunch-logout /usr/local/bin/xlunch-logout
cp -r $PWD/usr/local/bin/xluncher3 /usr/local/bin/xluncher3
cp -r $PWD/usr/local/share/fonts /usr/local/share/fonts
cp -r $PWD/usr/share/wallpapers /usr/share/wallpapers
cp -r $PWD/usr/share/xlunch /usr/share/xlunch
cp -r $PWD/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/xlunch.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/xlunch.png
cp -r $PWD/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/highlight.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/highlight.png
cp -r $PWD/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/xlunch_ghost.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/xlunch_ghost.png
cp -r $PWD/usr/share/pixmaps/xlunch-logo.png /usr/share/pixmaps/xlunch-logo.png
cp -r $PWD/usr/share/applications/Xlunchlogout.desktop /usr/share/applications/Xlunchlogout.desktop
cp -r $PWD/usr/share/applications/Xlunch3.desktop /usr/share/applications/Xlunch3.desktop
cp -r $PWD/usr/share/applications/update-entries.desktop /usr/share/applications/update-entries.desktop

rm -r /etc/xlunch/logout.dsv
cat <<'EOF' >> /etc/xlunch/logout.dsv
Shutdown;/usr/share/xlunch/icons/logout/shutdown.png;poweroff
Restart;/usr/share/xlunch/icons/logout/restart.png;reboot
Suspend;/usr/share/xlunch/icons/logout/suspend.png;logout
Exit X;/usr/share/xlunch/icons/logout/logout.png;pkill X
Cancel;/usr/share/xlunch/icons/logout/cancel.png;killall xlunch
EOF


# Add background directory with some wallpapers
cd /root/Build
wget http://rockedge.org/kernels/data/firstrib/backgrounds.tar.gz
tar xvfz backgrounds.tar.gz -C /usr/share/

# remove pmcputemp, retrovol, xlunch, mm_viewme install files
rm -r /root/Build

# Create some directories
mkdir -p /root/my-applications/bin

# Set up automatic login as user = root
# Create a new autologin service

cp -R /etc/sv/agetty-tty1 /etc/sv/agetty-autologin-tty1
rm /etc/runit/runsvdir/default/agetty-tty1
rm /etc/sv/agetty-autologin-tty1/conf
ln -s /etc/sv/agetty-autologin-tty1 /etc/runit/runsvdir/default

#ln -s /etc/sv/agetty-autologin-tty1 /etc/runit/runsvdir/default/agetty-autologin-tty1

cat <<'EOF' >>  /etc/sv/agetty-autologin-tty1/conf
if [ -x /sbin/agetty -o -x /bin/agetty ]; then
	# util-linux specific settings
	if [ "${tty}" = "tty1" ]; then
		GETTY_ARGS=" --autologin root --noclear"
	fi
fi

BAUD_RATE=38400
TERM_NAME=linux
EOF

# Replace profile for autologin
rm /etc/profile

cat <<'EOF' >> /etc/profile
# /etc/profile

# System wide environment and startup programs.

appendpath () {
    case ":$PATH:" in
        *:"$1":*)
            ;;
        *)
            PATH="${PATH:+$PATH:}$1"
    esac
}

# Set our default path (/usr/sbin:/sbin:/bin included for non-Void chroots)
appendpath '/root/my-applications/bin'
appendpath '/usr/local/sbin'
appendpath '/usr/local/bin'
appendpath '/usr/bin'
appendpath '/usr/sbin'
appendpath '/sbin'
appendpath '/bin'
unset appendpath

export PATH

# Set default umask
umask 022

# autologin on tty1
if [ -z "$DISPLAY" ] && [ "$(fgconsole)" -eq 1 ]; then
    startx
fi

# Load profiles from /etc/profile.d
if [ -d /etc/profile.d/ ]; then
	for f in /etc/profile.d/*.sh; do
		[ -r "$f" ] && . "$f"
	done
	unset f
fi

EOF

## USER CONFIGS: Copy main configs to /etc/skel for all normal users later added
xbps-install -y sudo
cp -af /root/. /etc/skel
mkdir -p /etc/skel/.config /etc/skel/.cache /etc/skel/.local/share
echo Still some extra to do here re the likes of runit starting pulseaudio
echo among other user needed config bits and pieces,
echo so probably a few user-config issues noted as needing fixed here

# Give wheel group nopasswd sudo rights and create weedog as wheel group member
echo '%wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL' | (VISUAL="tee -a" visudo) # wheel group added to sudo no password required
useradd -m -G wheel -s /bin/bash weedog  # weedog in wheel group so has elevated sudo permissions
printf "weedog\nweedog\n" | passwd weedog >/dev/null 2>&1 # Quietly set default weedog passwd to "weedog"


####### Finished and echo report

echo "desktop build process finished"
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Re: PLUG file to Build WDL-Void-jwm

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I have made a boot-able ISO of this desktop for testing. Link to come soon

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Re: PLUG file to Build WDL-Void-jwm

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@wiak using the initrd_v501-rc1.gz and w_init_501-rc1.sh is working well in this ISO set up:

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mkisofs -b boot/isolinux/isolinux.bin -c boot/isolinux/boot.cat -D -l -R -v -V "WDL_Void" -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o "WDL-Void-SK-7.iso" WDL-Void-SK-7-boot
isohybrid WDL-Void-SK-7.iso

Running in QEMU

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Re: PLUG file to Build WDL-Void-jwm

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rockedge wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2021 5:18 pm

@wiak using the initrd_v501-rc1.gz and w_init_501-rc1.sh is working well in this ISO set up:
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mkisofs -b boot/isolinux/isolinux.bin -c boot/isolinux/boot.cat -D -l -R -v -V "WDL_Void" -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -o "WDL-Void-SK-7.iso" WDL-Void-SK-7-boot
isohybrid WDL-Void-SK-7.iso

Running in QEMU
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Great to hear that is working with v501 initrd, which means it should work in Clarity's SG2D set up too (assuming you included the boot/grub/loopback.cfg file - your iso doesn't need to itself boot with grub2, but needs that boot/grub/loopback.cfg file for boot via SG2D boot as far as I understand that). Would be good if you could also re-upload your WDL_Void_XFCE iso to include v501 initrd since I think quite a number of people are interested in xfce desktop distros.

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Re: PLUG file to Build WDL-Void-jwm

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@wiak Also using initrd_v501-rc1.gz in the JWM - ROX desktop version. This has been tested in a typical frugal setup in both a UEFI and a BIOS configuration, and boots nicely.

This example is a desktop distro from build script and plug file, tested in a frugal setup and then created as a boot-able ISO based on the work in, on and around WDL-Void-xfce4.

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Re: PLUG file to Build WDL-Void-jwm

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rockedge wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:46 pm

...typical frugal setup...

None of us in this thread has control of a definition of a term. We each, after study most times, make our own interpretation of a term.

This probably should be a thread in and of itself as it seems a bit out of sorts.

WHAT is FRUGAL?

  • Is it the files that lead to an operating system on a desktop?

  • Is it the library structure that lead to an OS running on a desktop?

  • Is it the device that is used that houses that leads to an OS running on a desktop?

  • Is booting from a USB that houses, that leads to an OS running on a desktop?

  • Is booting from a CD that houses, that leads to an OS running on a desktop?

  • Is it the ability to reuse a prior desktop's session that leads to an OS running on a desktop?

  • Is it how the system is booted that leads to an OS running on a desktop?

  • Is it the bootloader (Lilo, syslinux, Grub, G4D, Grub2, EFI) used that leads to an OS running on a desktop?

What exactly is a "Frugal" label? OR Are there some unwritten Frugal 'types'?

Since the introduction of booting ISO files that went 'mainstream' in Puppyland starting with the GRUB2 additions of Dec 2019, there seems to be many differing views when this term is referenced.

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Re: PLUG file to Build WDL-Void-jwm

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Clarity wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:31 pm
rockedge wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2021 2:46 pm

...typical frugal setup...

None of us in this thread has control of a definition of a term. We each, after study most times, make our own interpretation of a term.

The earliest I've read about 'frugal install' is from Robert Shingledecker (then of Damn Small Linux - later Tinycorelinux) writing about it:

http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/wiki/flop ... stall.html

However, most isos we boot live tend to use same layout and hence I consider using them a form of frugal install too (but that's just my view based on the technical arrangement of how it works).

I thus tend to say 'normal' frugal install to refer to the traditional placing kernel, initrd, and sfs modules (or similar) onto a hard drive, or usb stick media and so on. Usually these type of devices are used as read/write capable. But I do regard booting from an iso file a form of frugal install. Also frugal install is not a full-install is another form of definition, though there may be alternative installation types that almost combine some of the advantages/disadvantages of frugal vs full installation. With WDL, for example, all layers can be loaded from uncompressed directories (rather than only from sfs files) so a user can hack around with the contents of these directories easily (which is both an advantage and a disadvantage...), but can optionally always use sfs files (or a mix of sfs and uncompressed dirs) if preferred - either way the organisation is still traditional frugal install (and same mix of sfs and uncompressed can be used in bootable isos too...).

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