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by dimkr
Mon May 20, 2024 6:15 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds
Replies: 65
Views: 6202

Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

I'm doing this yad migration not because of gtkdialog's diminishing popularity but because: 1. yad is alive, in the form of multiple maintainrd forks, while gtkdialog is unmaintained 2. yad mostly shows one widget at a time plus buttons, making it possible to port it to GTK+ 4: yad itself can be por...
by dimkr
Sun May 19, 2024 6:33 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 55
Views: 1147

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

wanderer wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 5:57 pm

you use woof-ce
i will use debiandog-live

Fine with me, as long as nobody spreads what may be perceived as FUD about the projects they don't use and discourages potential contributors.

by dimkr
Sun May 19, 2024 5:57 pm
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds
Replies: 65
Views: 6202

Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

The next development build replaces most remaining uses of Xdialog and gtkdialog with yad. Some dialogs are more compact now (pupswap is a good example), and the shutdown dialog is a bit smarter: you can close it to abort shutdown (as the text there says - it was a lie until now) and it shows a time...
by dimkr
Sun May 19, 2024 5:19 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 55
Views: 1147

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

Not many forum members I feel have the ability, or at least the knowledge, to alter the result produced by woof-CE. Not many actually tried, some just echo the statement that woof-CE doesn't work or woof-CE is too complicated to use, without doing some fact checking on their own and actually trying...
by dimkr
Sun May 19, 2024 4:19 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 55
Views: 1147

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

advanced stuff, it's about how much knowledge you have already (edit: e.g. about usage of git / github) In this particular case, you only need to create a GitHub account. No git knowledge is needed if you only want to run woof-CE! If you want to modify woof-CE, you can do this without knowing how t...
by dimkr
Sun May 19, 2024 2:19 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 55
Views: 1147

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

we mere mortals need something that we can use that is why the single script approach works so well for us I think that a fully automated solution where you fill a form and get a newly built Puppy that's built in a clean build environment in the cloud, on a fast machine, is much easier than running...
by dimkr
Sun May 19, 2024 12:15 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 55
Views: 1147

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

wanderer wrote: Sun May 19, 2024 11:45 am

and would eliminate the problem
of woof-ce being unusable for most people

Is this a real problem? Is this the primary reason for Puppy's stagnation, and not the lack of skilled contributors?

https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... -on-GitHub

by dimkr
Sun May 19, 2024 11:28 am
Forum: Users
Topic: Here are some very loose results with various browsers on Bookworm64
Replies: 2
Views: 84

Re: Here are some very loose results with various browsers on Bookworm64

There are many ways to measure RAM consumption, each tool has its own formula. Some tools measure allocated memory, some measure 'resident' memory that's actually in use and some even include cache. Cache can distort the picture a lot because in a computer with several GBs of RAM, cache can take GBs...
by dimkr
Sun May 19, 2024 8:58 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Whats up in Puppy World
Replies: 55
Views: 1147

Re: Whats up in Puppy World

I never saw anything wrong with the PPM idea of accessing packages that have been tested (or developed) by fellow Puppians. This idea is fine as an idea, but 1. PPM itself is unmaintained for years 2. The PPM repos like "noarch" contain ancient packages (not sure if it's https://github.co...
by dimkr
Sun May 19, 2024 7:23 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: annoying horizontal scroll bar
Replies: 6
Views: 219

Re: annoying horizontal scroll bar

I cannot see that theme Try to delete /root/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini @mikewalsh I do not know :) but among all the puppys I have tried only vanilladpup comes with this problem on my PCs and laptops It's probably because it's the only one that sets a GTK+ 3 theme. GNOME developers don't want dis...
by dimkr
Sat May 18, 2024 1:30 pm
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: annoying horizontal scroll bar
Replies: 6
Views: 219

Re: annoying horizontal scroll bar

Do you see the same problems if you change the GTK+ theme to Adwaita?

by dimkr
Sat May 18, 2024 1:28 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: Kennel Linux Distrowatch presence
Replies: 7
Views: 213

Re: Kennel Linux Distrowatch presence

wiak wrote: Sat May 18, 2024 12:09 pm

Personally, I would consider it better if forum took more central interest

Who is 'forum'? What stops you from submitting it to DW yourself?

by dimkr
Fri May 17, 2024 10:06 pm
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds
Replies: 65
Views: 6202

Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

@d-pupp You're trying to mount the wrong image or trying to mount it the wrong way, because the image doesn't contain an exfat file system, it's a device image with one or two partitions.

by dimkr
Fri May 17, 2024 8:24 am
Forum: Users
Topic: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel [CLOSED]
Replies: 11
Views: 430

Re: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel

jamesbond wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 4:24 am

I actually did that manually

I also cleaned up the diff manually, I kept the top-level configuration changes I made myself and removed changes to dependencies (merge_kconfig.sh takes care of dependencies). This makes the delta more 'portable' across kernel versions :)

by dimkr
Thu May 16, 2024 6:23 pm
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Issue installing Vanilla dpup to usb stick
Replies: 5
Views: 225

Re: critical issue with booting usb stick

The included Bootflash (under the Setup menu) should work reliably, and Balena Etcher should be able to write the ISO directly to a flash drive.

I don't know what the other installers do, but I know that some of them are broken.

by dimkr
Thu May 16, 2024 6:19 pm
Forum: Users
Topic: Lowest RAM and CPU puppy?
Replies: 18
Views: 539

Re: Lowest RAM and CPU puppy?

mikeslr wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 5:00 pm

I think 9 has been deprecated and 11 is developmental. But a direct link to current 10's ISO thread would help.

viewtopic.php?t=7656 is sticky and explains the differences and links to downloads, so does https://vanilla-dpup.github.io/.

by dimkr
Thu May 16, 2024 6:41 am
Forum: Users
Topic: Lowest RAM and CPU puppy?
Replies: 18
Views: 539

Re: Lowest RAM and CPU puppy?

If you like BookwormPup64 but want something lighter maybe you'll like Vanilla Dpup. Under the hood it's mostly the same but has fewer packages installed out of the box (for example, no conky) and the preinstalled Firefox is tuned for low resource consumption. In general, it should consume less RAM ...
by dimkr
Thu May 16, 2024 6:33 am
Forum: Users
Topic: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel [CLOSED]
Replies: 11
Views: 430

Re: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel

5. Then run make oldconfig and proceed to build as usual. One thing I would add: after the build, verify that the diff between the Debian configuration and the configuration file used to build the kernel contains only the Puppy delta plus dependencies (i.e. if a driver changed to =y depends on some...
by dimkr
Thu May 16, 2024 5:24 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: No wifi after upgrading Vanilla dpup. (Solved)
Replies: 7
Views: 528

Re: No wifi after upgrade. Need Broadcom STA drivers?

Don't feel too bad about this, I have a laptop where hard block is sometimes enabled randomly after reboot, especially if the battery is drained.

by dimkr
Wed May 15, 2024 5:13 pm
Forum: Announcements
Topic: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!
Replies: 281
Views: 12658

Re: DistroWatch needs a newer Puppy version listed for Puppy Linux!!!!!

(3) Using one or more Package Managers that set can be augmented with applications directly from the repository of that Puppy’s ‘binary-compatible’, and from among the applications created for that Puppy or for use under several Puppys. It's very typical for a Linux distro to have a package manager...
by dimkr
Wed May 15, 2024 3:28 pm
Forum: Users
Topic: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel [CLOSED]
Replies: 11
Views: 430

Re: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel

But there does this comes from? From https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/linux-source-6.1, there are 3 things I can download: From linux-config-6.1. https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/amd64/linux-config-6.1/filelist Okay thanks, but I still don't get it. Is this the same .deb packages that I ref...
by dimkr
Wed May 15, 2024 1:07 pm
Forum: Users
Topic: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel [CLOSED]
Replies: 11
Views: 430

Re: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel

Ok, I see that the delta is just to make certain drivers built-in (usb, sata, mmc, squashfs). Yep, it's bus/device/partition/file system/NLS options to allow it to boot plus some performance, RAM consumption and size related settings (best examples are squashfs decompressors + no huge pages by defa...
by dimkr
Wed May 15, 2024 7:31 am
Forum: Users
Topic: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel [CLOSED]
Replies: 11
Views: 430

Re: Using debian kernel configuration to build Puppy kernel

The dpup kernel is built by applying a small eelta (https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/blob/testing/kernel-kit/debian-diffconfigs/bookworm), with the Debian configuration as the base. It's a regular kernel-kit run but it begins with download of the Debian kernel source rather than a kerne...
by dimkr
Wed May 15, 2024 5:30 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: No wifi after upgrading Vanilla dpup. (Solved)
Replies: 7
Views: 528

Re: No wifi after upgrade. Need Broadcom STA drivers?

dmsg with no output at all That's good, this probably means that the driver is both installed and loaded. Can you reboot and share dmesg output? Also, you might want to check rfkill , maybe WiFi is blocked through software (shouldn't be) or hardware (most laptops have a key combination for this).
by dimkr
Tue May 14, 2024 7:37 pm
Forum: BookwormPup
Topic: Clicking on desktop makes all icons disappear; again and they reappear
Replies: 16
Views: 618

Re: Clicking on desktop makes all icons disappear; again and they reappear

If you want to unplug the flash drive you're booting from you'll need to avoid any kind of persistency and copy to RAM. You can do this by adding pfix=ram. If you're saving changes the flash drive remains mounted.

by dimkr
Tue May 14, 2024 7:33 pm
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds
Replies: 65
Views: 6202

Re: Vanilla Dpup 11.0.x Development Builds

As Fred says, you probably didn't give the script execution permissions.

If you want to use /etc/xdg/autostart instead, you'll need to create a .desktop file.

by dimkr
Tue May 14, 2024 10:11 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: working redshift, how? (SOLVED)
Replies: 12
Views: 823

Re: working redshift, how? (SOLVED)

darksun wrote: Tue May 14, 2024 8:08 am

but I was referring to the X.org version of your vanilladpup 10.*

I understand that, but I prefer to spend less of my time on deprecated stuff that will go away in future versions. If anyone volunteers to submit a fix to woof-CE, I don't mind cherry-picking this fix into a future 10.0.x release.

by dimkr
Tue May 14, 2024 7:51 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: working redshift, how? (SOLVED)
Replies: 12
Views: 823

Re: working redshift, how? (SOLVED)

darksun wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 12:52 pm

@dimkr perhaps could resolve this in the next build?

Redshit doesn't support Wayland so this is a dead end, I feel like it's a waste of development time.

by dimkr
Tue May 14, 2024 7:49 am
Forum: Vanilla Dpup
Topic: No wifi after upgrading Vanilla dpup. (Solved)
Replies: 7
Views: 528

Re: No wifi after upgrade. Need Broadcom STA drivers?

@Airdale My bad, it should have been /usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start.

I see the driver is installed, let's see if it's loaded and no firmware is missing:

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/usr/lib/dkms/dkms_autoinstaller start
dmesg -c > /dev/null
modprobe wl
dmesg

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